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#15288 - 05/05/08 04:47 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: Cathy A]
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Originally Posted By: 'Neato
I'm probably going to get smacked for saying that, but, oh well.


And I might smack you, but not for that. grin

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#15289 - 05/05/08 04:58 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: questions]
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Originally Posted By: questions
Of course, I don't know what I'm talking about so I did a quick article search on this site, and found this one among others: http://www.gt-cybersource.org/Record.aspx?NavID=2_0&rid=13872

I have found the article library on this site to be a wonderful resource.


You are right, this site has a wonderful article library. I hadn't seen the article you linked, but I think that's just what I was looking for. Thanks! Thanks to all the others with info, too.

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#15290 - 05/05/08 05:00 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: Cathy A]
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Originally Posted By: Cathy A
Taking those drugs sure didn't make me feel like my neural connections were increasing...I just felt kind of...flat.
No...neither did I. Maybe because I'm not a mouse. Apparently an increase in the serotonin levels results in more new neurons (at least in mice). The theory is that the multi-week lag before antidepressants take effect might be due to the time it takes for new neurons to grow and begin to form connections. That is - the serotonin levels respond rapidly to the drugs but neural growth takes time. Anyway, this is an area of research ...

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#15292 - 05/05/08 05:05 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: incogneato]
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Originally Posted By: incogneato
Well, just as their are psychologists who specialize in helping gifted children, there are also those that work with gifted adults.
I'm sorry this sounds so vulgar, but I can't see how a non-gifted therapist is going to help a gifted/very gifted adult.

I'm probably going to get smacked for saying that, but, oh well.

Neato


I'm not going to smack you, but with that reasoning then a male therapist probably can't help a female, and vice versa. And maybe a therapist should have suffered from depression before being able to help someone suffering from depression?

I think the therapist needs to be very well educated for a target clientele to be effective, as well as having other qualities. JMO, and I'm not bound to staying with it.

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#15293 - 05/05/08 05:09 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: OHGrandma]
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Thanks for not smacking me!

I see your logic but I think we're comparing apples and oranges. I think if a female patient feels they will be better helped with a female dr. and vice versa, then they will.
In therapuedic realtionship the main ingredient for success is trust, IMHO.
Also, the therapist has to guide the patient to growth without being obvious. Hard to do if the patient is out-thinking the therapist.

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#15294 - 05/05/08 05:15 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: incogneato]
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I think the therapist would have to be very knowledgable and skilled at working with GT kids at least.

I'd certainly think GTness would be helpful in this area, but I guess I wouldn't be checking IQ scores at the door. A person who simply doesn't understand GTness, hasn't done the reading, doesn't get that GT kids are different, etc., isn't going to be able to be an effective therapist for a GT kid. It would be like trying to work with the blind without understanding that they can't see. You just can't do the job. But how they get the understanding...well, there's probably more than one way to skin that particular cat.

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#15295 - 05/05/08 05:21 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: Kriston]
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Well, I know my comment is somewhat predjudicial and exhibits inflexible thinking. I'm usually more open-minded. That said, I still think it takes one to know one.
I do realize this can be somewhat offensive and I apologize for that, but stand by my thought on the issue.
But like OHG, I reserve the right to change my stance based on further info.
smile

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#15301 - 05/05/08 06:33 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: incogneato]
aline Offline
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Registered: 12/13/07
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Well I'm probably going to get smacked again, too but (oops terminal grammatical flaw!) but this IS the kind ofthing that I was referring to in my other thread (bubble bursting) when it devolved to personal history.

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#15302 - 05/05/08 06:59 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: aline]
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I hope you didn't feel too smacked back there!
smile
I got what you were trying to say and it's very valid. If there are a million ways a kid can get into trouble, then watching my DD's thought process in action, there outta be about 10 million ways she could get into trouble.

Well as parents, we do what we can do and hope for the best!

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#15303 - 05/05/08 08:27 PM Re: ? statistical info regarding depression ? [Re: incogneato]
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No smacking from here, but when you are in a deep enough depression the only thing you want to know about the therapist is "how can you help me?". Or, in some cases, you don't want to know anything at all about the therapist/doctor because you are not exactly there willingly.

I think if you are going to a therapist for emotional problems it doesn't really matter at the beginning. After you've worked through some of those problems, it might start to matter. The most important thing would be that the therapist didn't shame your giftedness (which does happen, sadly). It also depends on the severity and nature of the problem. When I was in the deepest part of my depression, I didn't care at all. You don't really go "shopping" for one, you just take whatever lifeline is thrown at you. And, I certainly wasn't thinking in terms of giftedness.

If, however, you are talking about a therapist to help a gifted child adjust to a particular situation or to advise on educational options, it makes a world of difference.

And, the drugs made me, too, feel flat, which was actually better than where I had been before. Sometimes flat ain't so bad, when you consider the alternative.

Interesting thread. I can't remember how it got started but interesting thoughts.

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