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#15254 - 05/05/08 11:05 AM Upside-Down Brilliance
squirt Offline
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Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 249
Loc: Back in Texas, alas!
Would you pay $60+ for this book? I've currently got a borrowed copy but am bidding for it on ebay. The current bid is $54 and it ends in 8 hours. The only other prices I have see for it are $125 and $135. I've enjoyed the book and it is on indefinite loan. I'm thinking maybe the Parenting version (Topsy-Turvey Kids, I think) might be a better choice, and for less money.

Any thoughts?

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#15260 - 05/05/08 11:16 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: squirt]
Dottie Offline
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Registered: 06/30/06
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My only thoughts are that I wish I would have bought those last few copies when I saw Dr. S. live earlier this year.....

$60, probably not, but it is a good book.

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#15275 - 05/05/08 01:12 PM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: Dottie]
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For me, it would definitely have been worth $60. I wish I could buy more - I know DS5's teacher might appreciate it. I paid the regular price ($25) when DD7's testing was done.

In my opinion, Topsy-Turvy Kids is no substitute (I have that too).

Whether it's worth that much to you depends on how much you believe your child is a VSL. I found the whole book fascinating, since a lot of it applies not just to my dd but to my other kids, to two of my brothers and to myself as well. It may also depend on what you are looking for - if you are merely looking for a few solutions, stick with the articles on the VSL website, but if you want an in-depth understanding, go for the book.

that's my two cents
smile

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#15321 - 05/06/08 08:52 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: snowgirl]
squirt Offline
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Loc: Back in Texas, alas!
Just FYI, it went for $74. I haven't decided how VSL he his, but my husband is defintely VSL, which I realized while reading the book. Thanks for the opinions.

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#15341 - 05/06/08 12:06 PM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: squirt]
Lorel Offline
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Registered: 08/22/07
Posts: 615
Loc: New England
I wonder if you could contact Linda Silverman at the GDC and ask if she can sell you a copy. Chances are, she has a supply and will sell at far less that 75$. I just got my copy back from a friend,
and I am interested in rereading to see how it applies to my girls.
I do think it is very valuable information for a strong V/S person.
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#15342 - 05/06/08 12:08 PM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: Lorel]
Dottie Offline
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It IS valuable info, but for $75, it might be info I could part with!

I'm trying to remember what was said when I saw her in person a few months back. I'm pretty sure she had books out, but I think it was along the lines of "this is the bottom of the barrel". Again, I'm kicking myself for not grabbing them all!

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#15426 - 05/07/08 08:26 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: Dottie]
snowgirl Offline
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Registered: 02/24/08
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The GDC price is regular retail, $25. But last I checked, they are saving them for their testing families. We got one when dd was tested, and then to make a long story short I needed another one for a close relative, and I had to beg and plead to get them to sell it to me - it was not easy. It can't hurt to try, so make the call, but I don't think the GDC is selling to just anyone - I assume they're trying to make their supply last as long as possible because it's out of print. I wonder what it would take for the publisher to print more. Once, on googling the title, I found some sort of book distributor who had it on their list for a bookstore to order from (at regular retail price), but it was impossible to know whether they really had it or not.

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#15429 - 05/07/08 08:34 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: snowgirl]
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Registered: 04/05/08
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OK I don't know if this should be a separate topic or not, if so I'll split it off. How do you know if DC is VSL? I've taken some online quizzes. If the cutoff is 14pts, my DS would score 12 lol. My friend's DD scored PRI>>>VCI. PRI=149 vs 126 for VCI on the WISCIV. WOuld that indicate a VSL child? But from her reading she wouldn't say her DD is VSL.

Dazey

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#15432 - 05/07/08 09:32 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: Dazed&Confuzed]
snowgirl Offline
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Dazey - it's all a matter of degree - no one learns "only" with either their right or left brains, but there are people who heavily favor one over the other. Some people are an even balance. Some people might lean in one direction just a little, or a lot.

As for the on-line quizzes, I like better the table that distinguishes between the two forms: http://www.visualspatial.org/Articles/appendc.pdf

I can't say about your DS. As for your friend's dd, I wonder if it depends on what her subtest scores were for the PRI - I think certain subtests might be more indicative of VSL than others (block design, for example).

With my dd, based on the wisc iv, the testers were able to say with complete certainty that she is a VSL. So far I believe they were entirely correct, even though there are some things dd can do that are on the auditory-sequential part of the chart (e.g. spelling). I'd say that personally, I'm moderately VSL but without as dramatic left-brain weaknesses that my dd seems to have.
smile


Edited by snowgirl (05/07/08 10:07 AM)

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#15433 - 05/07/08 09:37 AM Re: Upside-Down Brilliance [Re: snowgirl]
Dazed&Confuzed Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
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Her Block Design was 19, Picture concepts 16, and Matrix Reasoning 19.

I'll check out that website. Thanks!

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