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#15653 - 05/10/08 05:24 AM Re: Is a year or two really that big a deal? [Re: luciente]
Grinity Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
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Loc: Connecticut
Originally Posted By: luciente
Originally Posted By: Grinity

People seems to surround themselves with friends and family members who are more or less similar to themselves. So you may know tons of folks who could move academically at one, two or three years ahead of the school standards. But schools deal with large groups of kids. In these large groups, most kids are learning near their readiness level. Most gifted kids are well served by the 'only 3 months accelerated' program.

Hope this helps,
Grinity


If I found someone particularly similar to me, I might run the other way. wink Actually, most of the like-minded people I "know" are online. IRL I walk a thin line and keep my mouth shut. To be tongue-in-cheek, I've learned that teachers don't like homeschooling talk, homeschoolers don't like teacher talk, and nobody likes gifted talk unless their child is more gifted than yours!



LOL, when I said 'more or less similar' I meant it! It is a funny paradox that people tend to surround ourselves with a sadly uniform bunch of folks, and still feel 'totally' isolated. So 'similar' is a relative term. For example, some extended families are chuck full of MG kids that would be happy learning around 1 year ahead or maybe two accross the board. Let a PG kid be born into the mix, and watch the fur fly! Take an MG kid from that extended group and put them into a school were the average IQ really is 100, and watch the MG kid flounder because they are underchallenged.

From this perspective I think that the label 'Gifted' is only really useful to discribe the difference between the expectaions of the situation (such as your school that didn't want differentiation for the top students) and the child's learning needs.

Welcome!
Grinity

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#15656 - 05/10/08 05:48 AM Re: Is a year or two really that big a deal? [Re: luciente]
Dazed&Confuzed Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
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Originally Posted By: luciente

Actually, most of the like-minded people I "know" are online. IRL I walk a thin line and keep my mouth shut. To be tongue-in-cheek, I've learned that teachers don't like homeschooling talk, homeschoolers don't like teacher talk, and nobody likes gifted talk unless their child is more gifted than yours!


Yes, my most like-minded friends are online as well. I have two friends who get it (both have gifted kids). I can see where you (Luciente) have a foot in 3 worlds - wait, that would mean you have 3 feet and may not be free to open up in either of them. Hugs.

Originally Posted By: luciente

Even as a teacher at an "accelerated" (by one year) school, with excellent teachers, I ran into puzzling attitudes. I wasn't allowed to give the kids who were obviously in need of more challenge anything different (and yes, they did go off-task and clown around). I was allowed to differentiate in the other direction, giving struggling kids extra assistance, less challenging work, etc. The need for tailoring was the same, but the response was so different!


That is so odd yet I've read it several times on various boards on how the gifted school was more inflexible than the PS. they did well by the MG kids but throw your HG+ kid in there, and they won't differentiate beyond what they do normally. You would think they would get it. It's such a myopic view of giftedness.

Luciente - how old are your boys? Did you mention why you decided to HS? Were their needs not being met or you just enjoy teaching them? I'm considering HSing my almost 8yr old next year. I also have a rising Ker who is similarly advanced as his brother was going into K ... I fear for him. My older son's K year was horrible for him. BUt the 5yr old is a different kid so you never know. I'm prepared to pull him out should things go badly.

Welcome to the board and while I've only been here a short time , I think you've found a place where you can talk about giftedness, HSing, and being teacher. I have several teacher friends and I find their insights intriguing.

Dazey


Edited by Dazed&Confuzed (05/10/08 05:53 AM)

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#15658 - 05/10/08 06:41 AM Re: Is a year or two really that big a deal? [Re: Dazed&Confuzed]
Kriston Offline
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As a former teacher who's homeschooling an HG+ child and also has a DS we can't tell about GTness with yet, I'm certainly really happy to have you here, luciente! laugh

Welcome!


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#15697 - 05/10/08 06:45 PM Re: Is a year or two really that big a deal? [Re: Kriston]
luciente Offline
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Registered: 05/08/08
Posts: 6
Thanks for such a nice welcome, everyone!

I have a 3.5 year old, Kestrel, whom I assume is at least MG. His only experience with school thus far was a trial of Mother's Day Out last year. In the middle of each day, he would cry for me, and not let the teachers comfort him. He lasted a month! I later found out that he'd had a double ear infection the whole time. frown

Robin is 11, HG, and has a checkered educational history. He was accepted at 4.5 to the kindergarten at the accelerated school I mentioned before.

Ultimately, I decided to enroll him in their pre-k instead. We had recently moved to a new state, and he'd never done all-day school before. I worried that he'd be too stressed. He'd been the youngest in his preschool class, and I hoped that being one of the older kids in his new class would help him socially.

Rob did great socially in the pre-k. but learned very little. I taught kindy there, and the next year he was in my class! He was one of the kids I was not allowed to accomodate.

Again, he did well socially and learned too little. He got used to knowing all the answers and spending mere moments on his work.

The next year, we sent him to a Sudbury Valley Model school. To explain why that didn't go well would be a whole other novel.

The next year, when he was 7.5, Kestrel was born, and we began homeschooling! I wrote Rob a curriculum, but we slid towards unschooling pretty quickly. After viewing Rob's end of the year portfolio, our hs'ing coordinator bumped him up a grade! Easiest skip ever. laugh

So this is our 4th year as homeschoolers. I had always thought hs'ing was a cool idea that we'd probably never do. Now I'm convinced it's the path for us.

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